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What Champions are Carries?
04-06-2011 05:17 AM
Executivechap
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What Champions are Carries?
I don't know who the carry champions are, does anyone else know?


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04-06-2011 05:26 AM
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RE: What Champions are Carries?
Ashe and Tristana , maybe Yi , but I'm not sure of the definition of a carry.


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04-06-2011 05:42 AM
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RE: What Champions are Carries?
Ezreal,Twitch,veigar,katarina,shen,akali,xinzhao,twistedfate,urgot,ashe and other with low life and its descrption says carry.


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04-06-2011 07:37 AM
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RE: What Champions are Carries?
Generally, carries are champions that start a bit weaker than others, but with enough gold and stuff, become unstoppable bearers of destruction, capable of taking on even an entire team, under the right circumstances.

Kog'Maw, Tryndamere, Twitch, Urgot and others are good examples of champs.



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04-06-2011 12:51 PM
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RE: What Champions are Carries?
Ashe, Caitlyn, Corki, Ezreal, Gangplank, Jax, Katarina, Kog'Maw, Master Yi, Miss Fortune, Sivir, Teemo, Tristana, Tryndamere, Twisted Fate, Udyr, Urgot, Xin Zhao

Also almost up there would be Irelia, Blitzcrank (DPS), Kayle, Nocturne, Olaf, Trundle, Warwick

Caster Carries would be probably Karthus, Ryze, Lux, Malzahar, Kassadin, Annie, Anivia.

We're assuming champions if protected and played properly can completely dominate the other team amirite?

True hard carries would be Ashe, Tristana, Miss Fortune, Kog'Maw, Sivir, and Master Yi. Oh and Corki.



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04-06-2011 01:11 PM
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RE: What Champions are Carries?
Course technically if anyone is fed enough with the right build they could be a carry.

As in "I totally carried you guys".



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04-07-2011 06:05 PM
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RE: What Champions are Carries?
(04-06-2011 12:51 PM)Valitrix Wrote:  Caster Carries would be probably Annie

In my opinion, Annie is not a carry by definition. In the end-game, her damage is neglectible (at least, compared to other champs) against good opponents, though she does have her stun.

However, it does depend on your definition of carry. When I use "carry" to refer to a champion, I refer to a "hard carry", which scales extremely well with items and farming towards the endgame, but without items in the beginning, it fails. Notable examples are Master Yi, Tristana, Miss Fortune, Corki, Twitch, Veigar, etc. Ashe can be played as a hard carry with her volley, though she has a generally better laning phase than other hard carries.

There are also soft carries that do well in end game and can also scale well with items, but they aren't as recklessly item dependent as hard carries. Karthus, Akali, a lot of tanky dps champions, and such are probably good examples.

Some champions can carry, but in a different form. Champions like Annie (can't think of other valid examples right now) completely wreck early-mid game - they can continue dominating with their huge gold advantage through the game. However, as soon as the enemy champions complete their builds, your damage falls off sharply. Basically, you carry your team midgame, aiming to shut down the enemy before they get their full builds.


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04-07-2011 06:25 PM
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RE: What Champions are Carries?
Aren't carries simply characters capable of high damage outputs?


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04-07-2011 07:01 PM
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RE: What Champions are Carries?
(04-06-2011 12:51 PM)Valitrix Wrote:  champions if protected and played properly can completely dominate the other team

Annie has stun cycling probably on par with Kennen's and her's doesn't diminish if you put more. 1.75 seconds is a long time in a teamfight that last arounds 8-10 seconds and I can usually get 2-3 off depending on how charged I was before the teamfight.
Her stuns can completely wreck the other team, and your teammates/you can kill them off, meaning she CAN carry.

But that's true what you said, she's not really a hard carry and doesn't scale that well with gold. (Well all casters scale with gold but)

Also Akali can hard carry true story bro.

Twitch was wrecked by nerfs (QQing nubs who can't deal with stealth) and has crap range w/o his ultimate WHICH BY THE WAY ONLY LASTS SOMETHING LIKE 6ish ATTACKS which means he's really ult for damage and then pretty much out of the teamfight or he's dead



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04-07-2011 08:17 PM
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RE: What Champions are Carries?
(04-07-2011 07:01 PM)Valitrix Wrote:  
(04-06-2011 12:51 PM)Valitrix Wrote:  champions if protected and played properly can completely dominate the other team

Annie has stun cycling probably on par with Kennen's and her's doesn't diminish if you put more. 1.75 seconds is a long time in a teamfight that last arounds 8-10 seconds and I can usually get 2-3 off depending on how charged I was before the teamfight.
Her stuns can completely wreck the other team, and your teammates/you can kill them off, meaning she CAN carry.

But that's true what you said, she's not really a hard carry and doesn't scale that well with gold. (Well all casters scale with gold but)

Also Akali can hard carry true story bro.

Twitch was wrecked by nerfs (QQing nubs who can't deal with stealth) and has crap range w/o his ultimate WHICH BY THE WAY ONLY LASTS SOMETHING LIKE 6ish ATTACKS which means he's really ult for damage and then pretty much out of the teamfight or he's dead

Meh, she's still more of an early-game nuke in terms of carrying ability. Compared with Veigar, her damage drops off hugely - with Veigar, he can pound out the damage to literally carry the team forward. In the games I play, I can only get one stun in (charging from 4 counters), as by the time my next stun would be up, I'm either A) dead because her spells have relatively crappy range or B) enemies are running and are out of range.

Twitch still applies to my definition of hard carry - crappy to decent early game, scales with items. He requires even more feeding than most carries, but he still counts in my opinion. :P


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