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Nocturne Mid?
03-30-2011 10:13 PM
RockyRaccoon
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Nocturne Mid?
The general idea being that he's been farming/harassing in mid with his q and blocking harassment with his shield. He would be a higher level than anyone in the lanes, and he'd be able to simply leave mid with very little warning to go gank with his ult.

I was on the receiving end of this in one of my matches, our mid wasn't doing well at all and as a result Noc was fed and went on to decimate the lanes and win the match.

Of course, I don't know Nocturne well enough to say much else on the matter, but I figure anyone looking at the Nocturne thread would be able to say something about the idea.


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03-31-2011 10:30 PM
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RE: Nocturne Mid?
Well, the problem I would see is that Ranged DPS would be able to harass him too easily especially Ashe or Cait;

his harass spell also pushes the lane hard leaving him susceptible to ganks.

Of course this is assuming both players are the same skill level. I played a smurf and we had to send Garen mid because I soloed. Garen wrecked.


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04-01-2011 12:45 AM
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RE: Nocturne Mid?
That'd be iffy on my take on this really;

Nocturne is melee and only has his Q to use as range. It damage will push lanes quite well as Eagle has stated and enemies try their best not to get hit so that'll push it even harder.
This would make him a very juicy target as even with his shield it nullifies an attack and gives him ASPD but if he's getting ganked it's all together possible that extra speed won't help him out. Especially if he's facing a wandering tank like Rammus or Amumu.
The only advantage I see him having is that if he can get up close to the other midder his skills will be very helpful.



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04-01-2011 02:58 AM
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RE: Nocturne Mid?
Nocturne has a superior AD range skill early game than Ashe, so theoretically he could probably out harass Ashe and Caitlyn, and he does have superior lane control out of most champions because of his Q and Shield. I think Mid would be possible, but if you got someone like LeBlanc or Viegar up counter laning in Mid, then that'd be bad idea.


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04-02-2011 02:40 AM
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RE: Nocturne Mid?
You have to consider his Mana costs though. He's rather costy and he could out poke them but he needs the mp/regen to do so. You're also depending on his Q really and his Shield only comes into play if the other person lets Noc get close.



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04-02-2011 03:34 AM
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RE: Nocturne Mid?
Well I usually use MP runes on anyone I plan on using Mid, plus with the changes to MP regen overall, have made it a bit better on him (as it has on a lot of champions)

So I mean if you do build to go mid, MP regen is already on your mind, or at least it should be. As for his shield, if anything its perfect for mids, especially annoying laners like AP ez, who love to spam flux to poke you, your shield just negates it and increases your attack speed, so if anything they're helping you out with grabing last hits faster by wasting mana on trying to hit you only for the damage to be absorbed.

Then again its all theorycraft, I may try going mid with Nocturne, it seems possible, but not as practical, granted a farmed up nocturne is more scary than a fast moving jungler if you ask me, so going mid sounds interesting, if you can control creep waves, which is what Nocturne is good at.


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04-02-2011 09:16 PM
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RE: Nocturne Mid?
Eh, the shield's CD is a lil long I believe like 10 secs or so.

His Q is rather costy even with MP5s and it's CD is also not super short. I still think he'd be at a disadvantage since he's not ranged and champs like Cait, Karthus, Ashe will out DPS him.

His only CC is his Fear and even then most ranged carries have ranged CC whereas Noc's requires him to be relatively close.



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04-03-2011 04:02 AM
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RE: Nocturne Mid?
Lol, you'd like the only person to say his shield is long, because it IS long, all i hear is whining about how it is too short and OP. But yeah he does have a lot stacked against him compared to other mid champs with range.



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04-03-2011 02:59 PM
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RE: Nocturne Mid?
Isn't the CD long? I know the shield itself lasts 2 seconds and the aspd boost if the shield is popped is 5seconds.

Umm...CD of the shield starts at 20sec and maxes naturally at 12 so it is quite long to a point.



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04-03-2011 08:37 PM
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RE: Nocturne Mid?
Yeah, I agree his shield is has a decent CD length, and I'm happy its that way, because if it was 5-6 seconds, and I'm firing that thing off for everything, I'd rage if it was set to 10+

But last I saw was people complaining that his shield's cd is too short, people are just crying about anything to get him nerfed into the ground. First his fear was OP then they remembered fiddle and his 3 second instant fear, then his Q was op, but then everyone remembered sivir's boomerang blade, now they're whining about his shield cd. Its becoming irritating.



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